Wimbledon Day 13: Djokovic Wins 3rd Wimbledon and 9th Slam in Stupendous Display

First of all, congrats to Djokovic. Second, I was wrong. Third, I’m very happy to be wrong. As was the case last year, I’m very grateful to have been a part of another extraordinary Wimbledon final. Wimbledon really does bring out the very best of the best and fully deserves its status as the most prestigious tournament in the world. Just unreal quality and drama again today. I am still mentally drained from watching, but I have to get a post out.

  • Opening Set: 7-6(1) Djokovic

Federer came out where he left off against Murray in the semis looking to take the initiative which he did at 3-2 when he broke Djokovic to love to take a 4-2 lead. He was cruising through service games with the help of his unplayable serve and soon Djokovic cracked under the pressure on his own serve. But as soon as Federer took the initiative he lost it again, failing to consolidate. Djokovic played a sick return game which included a brutal backhand pass that forced the error from Federer at the net. 4-3.

It quickly became clear that Federer was not playing another Murray. This was altogether a different animal he was dealing with. Federer was still holding serve with relative ease though, and at 6-5 and 40-30 on the Djokovic serve he held a set point. You could be excused if you still thought Djokovic was another Murray at this point because Federer was only a point away from winning the first set 7-5 the way he did against Murray. But again Djokovic reminded us why he is world #1 and a mental giant when he dug himself out of that hole.

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6-6. Tie-break time. Having dug himself out of that hole in that last game, I kind of liked Djokovic’s chances going into the tie-break. And he immediately made his move as he broke Federer on the first point with a remarkable get and control down the line as he thread the needle to pass Federer. Djokovic just raised his game to a god-like level in the tie-break as he bossed Federer from the baseline with sheer power and precision. Federer could only manage one point as Djokovic breadsticked him in the tie-break.

Suddenly things were looking pretty bleak for Federer after bringing his A game in the first set. Djokovic, on the other hand, showed immense mental strength the way he came back from a break and a set point to dominate the tie-break. The first set was clearly massive in the context of the match and Djokovic showed probably the best level that I have seen in my entire life. Talk of cometh the man cometh the hour. Just ridiculous!

  • Second Set: 7-6(10) Federer

It was time for Federer to regroup. Losing the first set was a big setback after playing a very good set but unlike Murray Djokovic is a tennis god. Many people would have missed this either due to bias or ignorance, but you only play as well as your opponent allows you to. Here is why:

  1. Federer did not have the serving advantage he did against Murray for two reasons: Djokovic is a better returner and a better server. He doesn’t have a weak second serve which Federer can freely abuse and he has a very good first serve himself which he can win free points off of the way Federer can.
  2. He didn’t allow Federer to push him around on the baseline the way Federer did with Murray. He is both a better offensive and defensive player than Murray. He went toe to toe from the baseline with Federer and then some.
  3. Djokovic is mentally far superior to Murray. He gets in Federer’s face. He acts like he owns the place. He believes he is better and knows it.

So once the first set was over Federer knew he was in desperate trouble already. It was highly unlikely that he was going to win in four sets from there, and even if he pushed it to five sets Djokovic would be the favorite. That said the match was far from over and Federer was still putting loads of pressure on the Djokovic serve. At 2-2 he had a break point but couldn’t convert and Djokovic clinched the game with a monstrous forehand winner up the line. In this set, the scoreboard pressure was on Federer as Djokovic served first.

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So at 4-5 and serving Federer almost cracked under that pressure as he served a double fault at 30-30 and gave Djokovic a set point for a two sets to love lead. A virtual match point. Djokovic made a deep return but then missed a regulation forehand. Federer was let off the hook and held serve. At 5-5 Djokovic made things way harder for himself than he should have after missing a sitter forehand volley. He appeared to be nervous but held serve. Federer did the same and another tie-break ensued.

This time it was Federer who broke serve on the opening point, but Djokovic soon raced ahead again and held three more virtual match points at 6-3. I think Federer forced the error on the first point but on the second Djokovic made another unforced error. Then at 6-5 he made a first serve which resulted in the weak reply from Federer but Djokovic went the wrong way where Federer was waiting and Federer steered the backhand into the open court which forced the error from Djokovic.

Another opportunity was gone. But that was not all. At 10-9 Djokovic held yet another virtual match point and made yet another unforced forehand error. Finally, since Djokovic didn’t want the second set, Federer took advantage and claimed the tie-break 12-10 himself. Huge drama and Federer was right back in the match. I felt Djokovic really let himself down mentally in that set after being so clutch in the first set. He made three unforced errors and chose the wrong side on four virtual match points.

  • Third Set: 6-4 Djokovic

As a Djokovic fan, the second set was tough to digest. He really should have been two sets to love up from which there is almost no chance at all that Federer could come back. But now they were squared up at a set apiece. And right at the beginning of the third set Djokovic was back to wasting chances as he was up 40-15 on Federer’s opening service game but failed to break again. He was then also a break point down in his next service game which was very dangerous indeed.

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If Federer had taken that point then there was a legit momentum swing and Federer was in the ascendancy. The drama just wouldn’t stop! Djokovic showed some more immense mental strength though as he held serve and went on to break Federer in the next game. Quickly Djokovic was back in control of the match and this time there was no way he was gonna let it slip again. At 5-4 he held serve to love to get into a very strong position against his older opponent at two sets to one.

  • Fourth Set: 6-3 Djokovic

But after what we saw last year you couldn’t write Federer off just yet. Little by little Djokovic’s rock-like mental strength started to take its toll on Federer though. At 2-2 he broke serve again after more relentless pressure from his return game. At 4-3 he held serve and at 5-3 Federer would serve to stay in the match. Would we see another miraculous comeback from Federer? Not this time. At 30-15 Djokovic was ready to drop the hammer as he hit a brutal backhand return winner which he followed up with a blood-curdling ‘COME OOOOON!’ that signified the end for Federer.

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The predator had patiently sized up his prey and it was time to pounce and finish him once and for all, which he did with another monster forehand winner and a roar of triumph.

  • Final Thoughts

Even writing this post had more adrenaline flowing through me. I was incredibly tense throughout the match and found it difficult to watch. It was a kind of torture, but a good torture. I desperately wanted Djokovic to win after what happened at the French Open. That was simply brutal after all he’s been through there, but thanks to Stan the man it was easier to deal with for Djokovic. And so much for the people who thought that loss would cause a drop in form for Djokovic.

The guy as the absolute heart of a champion and doesn’t know the meaning of the words ‘give up’. He came back after that 2013 French Open loss stronger than ever and he did it again now. I have immense respect for that and it shows me that his tough childhood taught him how to fight back from adversity. This season is now starting to rival his 2011 season. For me, he is the favorite for the US Open too. He is too good a hard courter to have only won one US Open so far.

For me he deserves this title more than anyone, and not just because he won it. He has been by far the best player this year but was dealt an impossible draw at in Paris which he made the best of. If he lost to another unplayable Swiss today it would have been devastating, but of course he didn’t come off a nerve-wracking quarterfinal with Nadal and a marathon five-setter with Murray that stretched across two days and gave him no rest day for the final. He was much better prepared.

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The level he showed today was the highest level of tennis I have ever seen, aside from the mental slips in the second set and his insistence on lobbing Federer which didn’t pay off once. He should have passed on many more occasions, but his passing wasn’t great either. But you have to give credit here to Federer as well for how he fought back in the second set and for how he covers the net. He almost forces you to go for the lob, but then he has the safest overhead in the world.

Anyway, I think with the level Djokovic showed today he could have beaten Stan in the French Open final too. I really do believe now that he was mentally tired in that final after what I saw today. His whole demeanor was different today. He looked fresh, strong and imposing, whereas in Paris he looked tired and impotent. But that is all erased now with a third Wimbledon title and a ninth slam. He is by far the best player in the world. No one is close. I didn’t even know he had the level he showed today.

Just unreal. As for Federer, he remains an inspiration to be playing as well as he is at almost 34 now. His level against Murray was extraordinary, and I guess you could say he peaked too early too. But yeah, Djokovic made things very difficult for him indeed. He just could not impose himself the way he can against just about everyone else(not peak Nadal). I really thought this was Federer’s time again after doing his dues and walking the long road back to his best.

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And I do believe he was back to his best. He said it himself and Pat Cash said it on twitter again today. The match against Murray was as good as anything I’ve seen from him. I thought a record 8th Wimbledon was his destiny, but Djokovic is scary good. I can only watch in sheer awe and admiration. As a massive tennis fanatic, the level I saw from him today is something very exciting and inspiring. I can’t wait to see what is next for this guy and how far he can take this.

I always knew he was a special talent, but today he exceeded my expectations. Federer was playing better than last year, but Djokovic’s game had improved even more. His serve is now a lethal weapon and he has become more than a competent net player. For both of those things, his coach Becker deserves huge credit and it obviously has a huge influence on his grass court success. He is more aggressive off the ground too I think. He just keeps improving and becoming more and more complete.

  • A Note to Fedfans

I just want to extend my sympathies to the balanced Fedfans who wanted Federer to win one last Wimbledon today. I know it’s tough on you guys, but I’m sure you can appreciate what you saw from Djokovic today as well. What I think should also help you is that Nadal did not win the French Open this year thanks to Djokovic so that he didn’t come any closer to Federer’s slam count. Federer has still won three more slams than anyone else and only a spoiled rotten Fedfanatic would be unhappy with that.

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  • The Prediction Game

Only three people were crazy enough to go for Djokovic today and they were Charlie, Abert, and Veronica. Charlie got the amount of sets and the order of the sets correct as well so he is the winner today with 9 points. Outstanding job(yes I know you wanted to be wrong lol)! And the winner of the prestigious Wimbledon title in our prediction game is….wait for it….the myth, the man…..none other than Joe! :)) Congrats! It couldn’t have happened to a nicer blog reader and well done!

Actually Joe was late with a prediction once so he should probably have won by more than one point but a win is a win! You will now be displayed as the best predictor in the tennis world on the front page of my blog until the next tournament! :)) Seriously though, good stuff Joe. You have been extremely consistent and that takes tennis knowledge no matter how hard you try to deny it! Thanks to everyone for playing it was fun and I think we should do it again! Or what do you think?

Ps. I will update the rankings and points after this post.

  • Highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLnnOS3gnyY

The is in your court.

Posted in Grand Slams, Wimbledon.

76 Comments

  1. Kudos To Nole. Very worthy champ. Fed surpassed all my expectations by making it to the final and putting a master class on Murray. So, I am not disappointed… Much. The fed fan fanatic of course wishes for a fairy tail ending but this is more “balanced” outcome. After all, the biggest reason why fed is still GOAT is Due to nole’s dominance over Nadull. Good Karma. Congrats Nole for a deserving win and @ru-an for excellent coverage throughout the tournament. Till the next big one!

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Excellent comment too BC and as always a pleasure to have you as part of this community. This is a more balanced outcome because it will teach the spoiled rotten Fedfanatics to appreciate what they have. It will be good for them.

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  2. I don’t know about you, I find it nerve wrecking and mentally draining to watch. The match was high quality esp the first 2 sets, but it almost felt like Federer could not quite reproduce the same level as what he did against Murray . Of course, Djokovic made things difficult for him. However, at 4-2 lead in the first set, Fed could have served and raced to 5-2 that’s make it very difficult for Doko to come back to take the 1st set.. Once Fed missed 2 set points and lose badly in the tie-break, I knew the match is in Doko’s hand. Credit to Federer managed to hang in and win the 2nd set for break. It was, however, too late. Mental and physically, it had caught on to Fed.

    Doko had the age advantage knowing he can play as long as on the court. He could only surrender if Fed blasting him off the court like what Wawrinka did to him at FO couple of weeks ago. Obviously, his game made it hard for Fed to bully like what he did to Murray. As fed had lost to Doko the last 2arches that’s play apart too. Doko knew he could stay with Fed as long he hang in there.

    In summary, it was both positive and negative for Federer. At almost 34, he knew he had the game to beat the best, and make to another Wimbledob final was already an achievement by itself. However, he could not turn back the clock nobody what he does. Djokovic now has his numbers just like what nadal did to him a few years ago. Mentally it’s tough in a best of 5 GS level. Imagine if he runs into a draw with Nadal-wawrinka-Doko in the final waiting. I think he should just relax and not set any expectation ahead of every GS. The media had all predicted him to win after his super performance against Murray, that gets to his head too. From now on, we never know if Fed can make it to another GS final let alone winning it. It just very tough to do with the depth of the ATP tour right now (unlike the extremely weak WTA tour) at his age.

    Any thoughts?

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Good comment IWC. Yes, I find it nerve-wracking and mentally draining to watch. Like a torture chamber. It’s very tough if you are on the losing side.

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    Eric Reply:

    Me too. I was awed by the level of p,as but it was very nerve wracking indeed. Bravo to Novak, he’s not number one in the world by mistake!

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    Jiten Reply:

    I blame it on the illicit manufacturing of SALAD. :)) :)) :))

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    Eric Reply:

    You know what! I have to admit it. Dammit, this time it was a bagel w cream cheese that was at fault. Please forgive me, I’m too weak….. :-)

    Love your other comment and completely agree. Roger had a magnificent tournament and right now he and Stan are the only ones giving Novak a hard time at all. Bravo to Roger who is the clear number two in the world and will still have more chances coming up. Novak did exactly what I expected he would and I too was surprised by all the clear favorite talk and allowed myself to get caught up with it to the extent that I thought he would squeak out a hard fought and close win in the battle. Only ten points won separated them and all of their other stats were almost identical. Narrow margins like that against an in prime number one should be considered a victory from Roger. Tennis fans won today, that’s for sure.

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  3. I’m feeling devastated right now. I wanted so badly for Roger to get his 8th Wibledon title. Last year’s loss was very difficult to accept because it seemed like it was his last chance of winning another major. Just when I had begun to reconcile with the fact that it was unlikely Roger would win another, against all odds, he managed to revive the hope again this year only to have the door slammed in the face. It feels so cruel. But I guess you’re right Ru-an, being unhappy with 17 majors is just pure greed. Winning in 2012, beating Djokovic and Murray, back to back was very special, and if it turns out that was his swan song, we can’t really expect more than that.

    The reason I became a fan in the first place was never about all those titles, it was because of the way he played. The way he played on Friday against Murray was like turning the clock back ten years. If he still is capable of playing matches sporadically at that level, at 34, I should be more than happy with that. My appreciation for Roger is what me develope a passion for the sport as a whole. That’s also something to be grateful for.

    That being said, there’s no denying that todays loss hurts. Though the realist in me isn’t surprised that it turned out this way. Djokovic has currently been just too good to lose two slam finals in a row. Also, after Federer’s match against Murray nearly everybody seemed to get carried away and acted as if he had already won. But I knew that it would be very unlikely that god-mode Federer would show up two matches in a row. Not that he played poorly, he played as well as anyone could have reasonably hoped for. He just ran into machine-mode Djokovic. If like you said, it was written in stone that Roger would win, then that stone tablet was smashed to pieces by Novak today. If anything was really set in stone it must have been when Djokovic came back from two sets down against Anderson. But that’s the luxury of hindsight. :-)

    The only thing left is to congratulate Nole fans. The tennis world got carried away after Federer schooled Murray, but was swiftly brought back down to earth today when Novak reminded everybody why he is ranked nr.1.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Good comment BE and I feel your pain. Sorry about that. You certainly are one of the good Fedfans. I was also a huge fan of Federer’s style and still am. I have followed his career since the beginning. Djokovic just brings something entirely different to tennis and he really sparked my interest with the 2011-12 domination of Nadal. It was something Federer could never do and fresh. Even then I was still mainly a Fedfan, but when Djokovic started dominating Nadal again at the end of 2013 until now it was hard not to become a serious fan. Especially with the way he unceremoniously dumped Nadal out of the FO. Just gorgeous.

    Anyway, it was nice to see Fed playing at his highest level again at Wimbledon and a treat for balanced Fedfans. Yes, a record 8th Wimby title would have been unreal and seemed fitting, but this is a reminder to appreciate what you have. 17 slams is the most ever by a margin of 3 slams and like you very accurately noted being unhappy with it is sheer greed.

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  4. The simple fact in the final is that Nole was the better player and the better player won. The end of the story. Ru-an, I was utterly surprised at your “set in stone” statement. I knew that expectations were pretty high after the Murray match. But against Djoker? You must have been kidding. I would have been more surprised if Fed had two dreamlike performances in a row. However, I am very happy with whatever he has offered to his admirers at the ripe age of 34. After the ordeal of 2013, nobody would have put any money on Fed reaching two consecutive Wimbledon finals. The final really showed that one cannot defy age (of course, if you decide to live in Spain or wants to play in the WTA circuit). I am really really looking forward to see how Djokovic fares against the likes of Coric, Theim, Rublev, Kyrgios etc. at the 2020 Wimbledon! :-P

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    Jiten Reply:

    My bad, it should read ” of course, unless you decide to live in Spain or want to play in the WTA circuit”.

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    pat lemon Reply:

    Jiten
    Novak will be a UN sport ambassador by then and won’t be playing. He’s got other goals.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    ‘Ru-an, I was utterly surprised at your “set in stone” statement.’

    Jiten’s prediction: Fed in 3: 7-6 (7-3), 7-5, 6-3.

    ;))

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    Jiten Reply:

    You know what Ru-an, the Mathematician in me already told me that you are going to rope in my prediction score here. :-P That is exactly the way we rebute the reviewers who decide against the publication our research manuscripts. The prediction was just for fun. I even predicted a Gasquet win in five sets against the Djoker. I knew that there is no way Gasquet can win against Djoker staying 50 feet behind the baseline; my prediction was just a wish. This prediction for the final was also “what I wished for”, but was almost 90% sure that it won’t materialize because deep inside I knew that Fed is facing a different beast than what he had faced in the semi-final. As Veronica pointed out, for some reason, Fed just didn’t look like his own self in the final; the mind just didn’t seem to be there. Mentally he was worse than last years final and team Djokovic was far superior in executing their game plan than team Roger. And Ru-an, great analysis as usual. My only complain is that Djokovic would have won even without you jinxing Fed with your “set in stone” statement. 8->

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  5. A bit sad ending, but it was still a nice ending. Djokovic is indeed a great champion and there is no one better suited to hold domination over tennis right now. Federer’s game will always be remembered as the most beautiful, but Djokovic’s game is also exciting. And in case many haven’t noticed, when on form he can almost fully control when he summons his A+ game. Federer has some control of that, but not to the degree Djokovic is doing. That in itself, makes him a worthy champion. In recent years, he strikes me a the most gentlemanly guy on tour. So, tennis has a great ambassador in him, too. Here’s to hoping he can build on this and finally complete his quest for a career slam next year.

    As for Federer, I strongly think this is his final push for a slam. He’s like a male Steffi and this defeat could be compared to Steffi’s last Wimby final defeat by Davenport (with the difference being Davenport was nowhere near comparable to Djokovic). I guess it is a little bit of karma, too…he made Roddick retire a one-slam wonder although the man was also a worthy champion and he did all he could to win at least one more. At this age, it just doesn’t seem feasible for Federer to improve more on the performance in Wimbledon he just had. USO will be his last greatest chance to win a slam, but as good as chances go it will be nowhere near this Wimbledon’s opportunity — that is to say, a huge miracle has to be in order for him to win USO.

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    Alex Reply:

    He’ll definitely have a chance at the US open. He is clearly the number 2 player in the world right now and he can never be counted out.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Wil be tough Alex. Wimbledon is his best shot these days and he struggles in the BO5 set format now due to age. But who knows.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Great comment Jason. I don’t see another slam on the horizon for Federer either. His level against Murray in the semis was his peak level. A great treat it was but not good enough to beat Djokovic these in slams. The guy is an absolute monster. I agree with the karma part too. Fedfans probably think Federer is beyond karma, but I think the Roddick comparison is apt. This is a good reminder to the fanatics to simmer down and eat some humble pie.

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    IWC2015 Reply:

    Hi Ru-an.

    I agree with your view, Fed’s only opportunity is Wimbeldon. Since he failed to win on Sunday, there is no guarantee he can make it to final next year. USO, his next best slam , has many contenders. He could be blown off the court by Wawrinka before running into Novak in the final.

    I am not sure what else he can do. Unfortunately , age is something we all cannot reverse. Fed is also not a player like Novak or Nadal who is willing to ´dié’ on The court and play for 5 hrs to win a match. He is just too classy. Any suggestions what else can he do to win a GS?

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    Jiten Reply:

    He can hire a coach to improve the mental part of his game. Sometimes mental fortitude could do what one’s natural and acquired talents cannot do. However, to me Fed does not look like a person who would do things like meditation to improve his game.

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    IWC2015 Reply:

    Fed probably will not admit he needs a mental coach – he has won 17 GS why would he?

    He is too classy to consider this as a weakness. Post match interview suggest he still can compete with Djokovic and spoil his party.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    But I think Fed is mentally good. Why do you need a mental coach when you destroy Murray in his prime and give Djokovic a very tough match in the final? I think people expect too much.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Well, I don’t think it’s classy if you are not willing to go to five sets and ‘die’ on the court. If anything it’s unclassy to throw in the towel in the fifth set. I don’t think there’s much else he can do to win a slam. He has to get the perfect draw and play really well, but we have seen even if he gets a great draw he doesn’t take advantage. I really think this was his last best chance. We will see at the USO but like you said too many guys can beat him there over five sets. Wimbledon is the one where he still has an advantage over most guys and play quick matches to conserve energy.

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  6. Ru-an,
    Great write-up. It was a great watch, sensational tennis, but a bit predictable after that break back from Novak in the first. I was disappointed for Roger then and despite the second set dramatics (great tennis!), the conclusion looked pretty clear.

    Great tournament and so stoked to have joined your community. Love the discourse. And should keep on trucking given what we have on the horizon.

    I did a little write-up but pretty much just reiterate what you discuss.

    I do think there are some things to consider in terms of what is possible for Novak’s legacy (damn you Stan the Man!). Let’s finish with 10 in September and get this train a rolling!

    Cheers.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Great to have you on board too Matt! Loved your piece on women’s tennis and there are a few more haters who left comments if you wanna check it out. I will check out your piece as well and make another one myself too. There is always too much to discuss in one post after a slam final.

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  7. I’m surprised you aren’t more embarrassed than you are, Ru-an, with your set in stone and realistic analysis! :-) You were thrown off by the Anderson scare and Godmode Murray match. It made you forget the realities : that Djoker’s groundies are ALWAYS deep. That Roger’s serve is less consistent under pressure than Djoker’s. That Djoker is a far better/aggressive returner than Murray. That Djoker is a mental beast. That he KNOWS how to win matches. That Roger is very comfortable playing Murray and always one step ahead of him; but Djoker is no Murray. These were some of the many realities I discussed with my cousins/friends last night when they were all under Roger’s spell. That scare against Anderson was not a ‘reality”, more like an anomaly, and actually a great preparation for Djoker. And that Godmode performance against Murray was not “reality”. It was a moment of rare Roger genius : hard to reproduce even without the pressure of the Djoker game, what about with the pressure of it?!! To think Roger can reproduce the same match against Djoker who is a totally different beast all together is not being realistic at all. I kept quiet after Roger’s Halle win and didn’t celebrate. I didn’t comment after Murray match. I will believe it when he beats Djoker; that is the real test for me.

    I wanted to actually say Djoker in 4 sets in my predictions but being a Roger fan, I felt I owe it to Roger to show him some faith so I said Djoker in 5. I like Roger and I want him to beat Djoker but this year has only shown me that Djoker is getting inside Roger’s head; that he has sort of figured out Roger. Roger used to be able to keep him guessing and bother him quite a bit with his variety. Losing in WTF last couple years was bad enough. Roger owned WTF. Now losing on grass; 2 years in a row. It’s like last straw. He shouldn’t wait till Djoker takes over fast hard Shanghai, Dubai, Cincy before he realises Djoker is firmly entrenched inside his head. Hard for Fedfans to swallow but I think it is nearer the truth rather than farther from it. He needs to stop the bleeding and later in the year, beat Djoker in Cincy or WTF at least.

    That aside, it has been a tremendous tournament for Roger. He looked so comfortable on grass, playing Masterclass in every round except, of course the one that really mattered. He can only be proud and his fans too. And fans shouldn’t ask for another slam; except when Roger himself wants it; so can’t really blame his fans for wanting it too! But if he wants another slam, his age is not gonna help – nerves, mental fatigue, stamina, all these are against him even if his game keeps improving. Also, as I’ve always maintained, it is his mental part that he needs help/overhaul most of all. His game, the re-invention of it, and breaking into his racket have all progressed nicely. But without more attention to the mental part, it’s not gonna cut it in today’s brutal mental game. His throwback style can only do so much against today’s style and surfaces. If he can back it up with a stronger mentality, he can win another slam; eg, if he had been mentally stronger, he may have been more able to consolidate his break in the first set; not allow the rain break to rattle him, come back stronger after the 2nd set, afterall momentum was on his side, etc. He didn’t look like he believed. You need to be mentally strong to play your best game against the best.

    One thing I wondered if anyone noticed. Body language of Roger. Anyone noticed Roger wasn’t as relaxed as all his past Wimby finals when waiting to come out? He looked more tensed and more fidgety than usual; by his standards of course. Then he walked out, without his usual swagger. Not a good sign. Then he ……. did not wave!! He ALWAYS waves in all past Wimby finals. That was the last telling sign that he was nervous and under tremendous pressure. When Roger is tensed, he can’t play freely. And believe it or not, guys, that was when I decided to record the match, turned the TV off and went to bed! I didn’t watch him hit one ball! I felt he wasn’t gonna get it done. Congrats to Djoker; unbelievable player; absolute mental and physical beast. Calendar slam……..are you still laughing at me, Ru-an?!!! :-) Not saying it is set in stone; I never said that and I don’t do those stone things :))

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    Cornel Reply:

    Veronica, I knew that Ru-an was just emotional when he wrote his previous blog post, because he really wanted the Djoker to win this one after what happen at the French. This objective stuff is non-sense (keep that for the scientists) and the reason for me why this blog is so good is because of all the raw emotion. This is what tennis is all about, being overly emotional. I am glad to see this in Ru-an otherwise it will get boring.

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    Veronica Reply:

    Cornel, of course Ru-an was emotional; as with anyone who makes remarks like that. And the thing about Ru-an that all of us like here, besides his outstanding writing of course, is his wearing his heart out on his sleeves. Countless times I’ve told him I liked that about him and told him not to change. Ask him. Ru-an often talks about objectivity, bias, rational, not to be overly emotional, etc. and often warn us against these things. Gosh, if what I said you consider “objective nonsense” and “keep that for the scientists”, then it certainly is embarrassing for me and I must be in the wrong place!! I know Ru-an enough to banter with him and tease him hard and vice versa :-P Chillax

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    Veronica Reply:

    Sorry, Cornel, I meant a smiley :-) NOT :-P

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    Cornel Reply:

    Hi Veronica. My comment about “objective non-sense” was not at all directed to anything you wrote. I just meant that I think trying to be objective in tennis if you are a big fan of someone is almost impossible. Ru-an just saw that Federer played a massive match against Murray, and I personally think he got a bit nervous for the final. I thought again Djoker is by far the favourite based on what I “saw”. If you are a fan you don’t really see stuff for what they are. We both were probably biased.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    First of all, let me just admit that I am biased(although I don’t take it to fanatical levels and can at least admit it unlike most). I have already said that I have favorites so it’s no secret. And no, I was not nervous about the final, although when it started I found myself very nervous. I was pissed because I thought the outcome was never in doubt and too predictable. Also, I find it surprsing that you thought Djoker was by far the favorite. You are probably the first person I encounter on the internet who thought that.

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    Veronica Reply:

    Hi Cornel! No worries! :-) too true that it is almost impossible to be completely objective when one is a fan. :-)

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    Ru-an Reply:

    What do you mean I was emotional? I wanted Djokovic to win. I was just saying what I thought would happen?

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    Cornel Reply:

    If you really want somebody to win (as was the case) then emotions take over and objectivity out the window. When I read that you are 100% certain Federer would win, I just thought this is your way of dealing with nerves.

    As you know my english is not good, so excuse me if this comes over impolite. I was a huge Sampras fan, and only once did I not want him to win. That was the first and only time that I really got to see how good he really was.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    No, you didn’t come over as impolite. I just want to make it clear that I wasn’t nervous but pissed off because I thought the result was never in doubt. I knew Djokovic had something up his sleeve and I wanted him to win, but I didn’t think he could pull it off. If you think I exaggerated with the certainty that Federer would win then you are right, but I did think he would win. I guess you could say I was trying to jinx Federer, although I don’t really believe in that stuff.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    When did you not want Sampras to win? Remember how I was a Sampras fan and switched to Agassi? And the glory hunter Fedfans here still call me a glory hunter :)) Agassi got his ass spanked by Sampras time and time again in the big matches.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Yes, Cornel I was emotional but I did think Federer would win for sure. So maybe I took it a bit far with the set in stone stuff but the fact that I thought Federer would win was not emotional. That was cold calculation and most people agreed with me if you look at the predictions here and around the web.

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    Alex Reply:

    And I guess that explains why Roger made so many unforced errors which cost him the first set and in the end, the match. That is the one stat that was telling I believe. 28 unforced errors overall, which doesn’t seem too bad, but it is when a lot of those come on key points in the match. And I saw the first two sets, they were clearly unforced errors and by no means forced.

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    Veronica Reply:

    Yeah! he didnt or maybe couldn’t play better. It’s the Djoker effect. He used to play Djoker confidently, even with an attitude of wanting to show Djoker who’s his daddy. But lately, maybe from IW or Rome, there was a shift. He is less confident and is too wary of what Djoker is capable of. He needs a victory against Djoker soon to get back his confidence. Maybe as IWC2015 suggested, he should enjoy and just swing freely…..

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Of course, I am embarrassed and in ruins. Couldn’t sleep last night because of it! =))

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    Veronica Reply:

    Thanks buddy! Glad you understood my teasing and took it like a man! :)) you said you liked honesty, right, Ru-an? That’s honesty for you. Fact – I was ~x( When you insisted not once but many times what you said. I definitely felt Roger had a great chance after that Godmode performance against Murray but the “wholehearted bet your life on it” extent that you took is so un-Ru-an-like, I just have to call you out and tease you about it. ;-)

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Lol fine. If it gives you pleasure. At least you admit here that you felt Roger had a great chance. But just to give up and walk away before the match even begun I still find strange. Surely you must have more belief in your player than that. If he won the set point at 6-5 he cold have won the match!

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    Veronica Reply:

    It’s not about belief. It’s about wanting my beauty sleep too much! As I said before on your blog, watching live matches was too emotionally exhausting and created havoc in my life. I didn’t want to go through those again. So If I’m not confident, I don’t watch. Not worth having hangovers and sleepless nights over a sports :-)

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Yeah it does create havoc if you are too attached to the outcome ;-)

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Lol. Good for you Veronica I’m glad you don’t do the stone things because I don’t think you’d be very good at handling the embarrassment of being wrong from the looks of things. Like I already said, I am delighted to be wrong. I am surprised you did not watch the match and deciding that Federer would lose. You should have more faith than that. He came awfully close. Just a couple of points in the first set and the match has a completely new complexion.

    I wasn’t sure about the outcome until the third set was over, and even then I wasn’t quite sure. Federer could level it like last year and a one-set shootout is always unpredictable. Federer is a tremendous competitor, especially at Wimbledon. I think maybe you are too hard on him and that you are slightly greedy perhaps. I was extremely impressed with his level at Wimbledon. I don’t care what anyone says, it was way better than last year and the match vs Murray was his peak level. At age 34!!!

    In a sense, he did deserve the title but Djokovic deserved it more. And I think the fact that Federer lost is good for Fedfans who have been spoiled over the years but always wanted more. They have to accept now that Federer didn’t break the Wimbledon record and that he doesn’t hold the record for the most slams and any particular slam while Djokovic and Nadal does. The bel18ve is now beLIEve unless Federer somehow miraculously wins Wimbledon next year.

    But to do that he would have to keep playing well until then and he would be another year older. Or he has to win the USO which is harder than winning Wimby for him. It seems very unlikely now. And yes I am still laughing at your calendar slam talk. You didn’t use the words ‘set in stone’ but you did sound convinced and even after what happened this year you still think he can do it next year :))

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    Veronica Reply:

    Haha Who likes to be embarrassed?! :-) Yes, I can see you are so delighted to be wrong! :-) I think having no expectations bodes well. I didn’t watch the match because I wasn’t confident Roger would win and I can’t afford to lose sleep having to work next morning! As you all said, it was torture chamber! I watched it later and was able to better appreciate it without the anxieties. Shoulda, woulda, first set, third set, doesn’t matter. It wasn’t good enough against Djoker. And it’s been the same shoulda, woulda story in his tight matches against Djoker. It’s not about having faith. Roger is not in his hey days anymore. There are only select matches he could win. I believed he could beat Murray but I wasnt convinced he could beat Djoker. No denying I would have loved an 18 but that is purely because Roger keeps playing and wanting it himself. If he is not too concerned about winning slams, I would totally relax and have no expectations. And yes, Roger was magnificent, much better form than last year. I didn’t say otherwise; just that Djoker is too good. The serve and one two punch was so effective. His movement was glorious. That match against Murray was such a perfect match. And playing another great final against Djoker. At 34, you just gotta say incredible. Not beating Djoker does not take away any of those achievements he has exhibited in this tourney. Let’s kiv the calendar slam until 2016 comes around ;-)

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Right, you had to work the next day. I understand that. And if you watched the match you would have been asleep at work given how mentally draining it was. My heartbeat actually picked up in the opening game. Never happened before but was fun. And btw your earlier point about Djokovic’s depth of shots was a good one. The way he paints lines and the depth on his shots in just unreal and puts massive pressure on the opponent. That was definitely one of the keys to the match as well because it prevented Federer from putting Djok under the pressure the way with Murray.

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    Jiten Reply:

    You know Ru-an, l18 does not necessarily LIE all the time. :))

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    Larry Reply:

    Veronica,I couldn’t agree more about Federer’s body language. I didn’t see the part when he came out of the dressing room, but I really noticed his tense body language starting midway through the first set. Completely different from all his other matches here. And this is not the first time I have noticed this. Maybe 5 times over the last few years, almost every time he gets to a final. As soon as I see it, I know he’s going to lose.

    You’d think after so many years of such great tennis he wouldn’t get nervous and tense. But, alas, he clearly does. Very strange. I guess he really is a human being after all :-)

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Well, Federer is not mentally as strong and confident as Djokodal. He doubts himself against them which is why he loses.

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    Kyle Reply:

    Djokovic has doubted himself against Roger and Rafa on many occasions. It isn’t abnormal that Roger would doubt himself against Djokovic though – he knows he doesn’t have the physical ability to hang from the baseline so he’s more one-dimensional than he’s ever been, really – at least against Novak.

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    Veronica Reply:

    Glad I’m not the only one noticing, Larry! Who would have thought after so much experience as you said. I’ve always admired how relaxed he looks coming into big matches especially Wimby finals. Not this year. Maybe it’s the age. Can’t hold the nerves as well when one gets older.

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  8. Yes, spot on. Fed make it clear Wimbledon is the major he wants to win more than anything else(maybe Olympics but he would trade off with a GS), he tells the whole world and it gets to his head! Moreover, he knows it is approaching end of career the more apparent the door will be closed sooner than later. If his opponent was Anderson, Gasquet or even Wawrinka, he’ll get the job done, but not against Doko – he’s playing at another level.

    Similarly, Doko wanted to win FO more than anything on earth, it got into his head the final against Wawrinka. Of course Wawrinka was brutal and blowing him off the court but (it had got to do with getting to his head partially as well).

    Hence, I reckon he should just not think about too much winning another GS and just enjoy the game. He knows how good Doko has become, and Wawrinka is not far (having beaten him in FO convincingly), even without Nadal and now having an edge over Murray, he might not win. His goal of becoming no.1 again is unrealistic. With a relaxed attitude he could certainly win another GS. If he keeps telling the media he can win another GS and become no.1 again it’s’ adding pressure on him. U can certainly tell he was not himself when playing Doko yesterday and making lots of unforced errors + missing first serve!

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  9. Had Djokovic been freely playing at FO as at Wimbledon, he would have won the FO no matter how well Stan played. I think, in case of Federer also, the pressure to win a record 8 Wimbledon titles got the better of him and it is not because of Djokovic that his serve percentage was less than 60 percent in the first set as far as I know.Had he been able to serve as well as in the semifinal, the outcome might have been different even with the Djoko. So, to me the morale is: do not put too much pressure on your mind. Federer did not play bad but the first serve percentage and the unforced( not forced) errors were just terrible.

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    Veronica Reply:

    The pressure for no. 8 definitely got to Roger, knowing he has few opportunities left. But the pressure was compounded by who was across the net. Against any other player, Roger may still have got it done. In the FO I don’t think it’s the pressure of wanting FO too much that Djoker failed. He was mentally fatigued more than anything. He had been playing so much tennis, winning everything before FO. In his draw, he had to play a match too many against quality players before he faced Stan. The win against Nadal took an emotional toll despite the straight sets and of course that 5 setter with Murray. It was actually a smart move that he rested before Wimby and got refreshed again. That refreshment and rest I believe played a part for him winning Wimby. Knowing when to rest is key to a lot of a player’s success.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Good comment Ronster! Now you get the hang of it :)) I agree there was huge pressure on Federer to win #18 unlike Steve would have you believe. But in the end he just got beaten by an absolute beast and he had a great tournament. Very true about Djokovic doing the smart thing to rest as well. That’s another thing I believe Steve was not very impressed with and he was praying the FO would have taken its toll on Djokovic. Steve is every quick to criticize and write Djokovic off because he sees him as a major threat to Federer. And he was completely right to. Djokovic shattered the dreams of Fedfans again.

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    Veronica Reply:

    :-) thanks! But I already got the hang of it in my pre-tournament comment that Roger would be feeling the pressure before Wimby started. Didn’t you see it?! I hope next year he would be less verbal about his ambitions and swing freer. See how freely he swung in his FO 2011 win against Djoker?! I want to see him beat your hero at least one more time on the big stages….

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    Ru-an Reply:

    My hero lol. Ok well, I’m not gonna say I don’t like the guy or that he isn’t an inspiration. Why do you ask me if I didn’t see the pressure on Federer? Do n’t you remember the comment Steve made before the tournament and my reply to it? He said Federer has no pressure and I said he has loads. Speaking of the 2011 FO SF, I think this was sweet revenge for the Djoker now for the second year in a row. Roger not only spoiled his chances of the career slam there but also gifted Nadull another FO in the final when he was there for the taking by the Djoker. So yeah, I don’t feel too bad for Fed.

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    IWC2015 Reply:

    There’s an article wrote we need to accept this is the Djokovic era, not Nadal or Federer. A lot of people are not warm up to Novak , they are Federer or Nadal supporters or even both. I too find it hard to like Novak. He is great, but is not a player I would watch day in, day out, apart from the GS finals like this – it’s getting repetitive to see him always playing every final.

    The only player stand in his way is probably Wawrinka which gives him the most trouble. I like Stan and I hope he keeps his consistency high, and, he knows how to beat Novak. Murray, as always, the supporting character, filling up thé Gap when Roger or Nadal becomes weaker owing to injury or out of form.

    From here onwards, I believe the H2H will flavour Djokovic, and he is next catching up on Nadal with 5 slams behind.

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  10. Djokovic just has the knack of working matches out of late. In the first set Djokovic was struggling to stay with Fed and Rogers serving was fantastic but from the first set tiebreak onwards (despite dropping the second set from 6-3 in tie break) Novak was in control. He seemed to suss out Federer’s tactics and from then on made every game a struggle for him. I do think fitness came into it but I just think Djokovic played the clever match. Aside from the surprise defeat to Stan the Man at the French Djokovic seems to be well above the others in the elite group at the moment. Surprised to hear Mr Roddick say in commentary that he doesn’t think Rafa will win another slam in his career.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    I removed your url about betting Lee. Just to let you know. This blog does on condone or wants anything to do with betting whatsoever.

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    Veronica Reply:

    Lee, That is exactly what I meant when I said Djoker may have figured out Roger…….

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  11. Wow Ru-an, I don’t know how to get started on this one since I have an awful lot to say about the final. Firstly, like majority of the people, I was wrong in my predictions. It’s safe to say that it was logical to assume Federer would win easily, especially after Djokovic got treatment on his shoulder during his SF match. But as fate would have it, Djoker just played better tennis when it mattered. Undoubtedly Fed was the better player throughout the tourney, except for the final. I mean you don’t get to number 1 and dominate for so long without a reason. Infact I think Djokovic should have easily won at least 11-12 slams by this point. This is the first time since 2011 that he has won multiple majors in a season. He knows that he might not have a lot of peak time in front of him and he’s making the best use of his abilities at this point. Right now it’s upto him to get to 14, which I feel it’s safely within his reach. I’m convinced that Fedal won’t win any more slams, and even Murray will struggle to win any, as long as until Djoker is around. It’s quite clear now that Murray is nowhere close to the level of Djokerer at this point, as he has lost the last 12 matches against those 2. As far as Fed is concerned, with this current level of play, he can easily stay in the top 3-4 and make at least QF or SF at almost all slams and MS 1000 events and win a few 250’s and 500’s here and there, which is still a tremendous achievement at his age. Frankly that’s all I expect from him in the future. The only thing which might bother his legacy is if he ends up having a losing record against Djokovic( they are tied at 20-20 now). But if they play on courts like Cincy, Shanghai or WTF, Fed always has the match on the racquet for obvious reasons. As long as their h2h is in favour of Fed or at least even, I’m okay with it. You can think of this is the only ‘spoilt’ part of me as a Fedfan that’s left. :))

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Good comment Nakul. That is the difference between Federer and Djokovic. Djokovic plays his best when it really matters. I sensed he wasn’t trying to play his best against the likes of Anderson and Gasquet. He played well against Cilic, but still had another gear. I knew after the semis he would raise his game in the final and had something up his sleeve, but after I saw the way Federer beat Murray I thought it was Fed’s destiny to win an 8th. Djokovic is just immense and all praise to him. I agree that he can win more slams, but I’m always careful to join the hype after a slam title. If he wins the USO and thereby completing another year of 3 slam titles then we can talk again.

    Personally I don’t care if Djo wins the h2h with Djokovic and it’s almost inevitable that he will. He is a better competitor than Federer, just like Nadal is. It wouldn’t look good for Fed’s resume to have negative h2h records with his two main rivals but that is the price he pays for chasing that one last slam and it would be an accurate reflection of his competitive abilities.

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    Matt Reply:

    Totally agree regarding the competitive abilities. Hopefully we can get into this more, regarding legacy, etc. Fed for all of his greatness has seemed to be not quite able to match the Spaniard’s and Serb’s grit and grind. Disappointing but reality, I’m afraid.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Yes, Federer is an artist, not a warrior. It’s jut not in his make-up, due to the way he grew up, genes, or whatever. It is disappointing, but he also has immense talent and, therefore, the best resume at this point.

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    Kyle Reply:

    Federer is a warrior. I don’t think he would have as much success if he wasn’t. He just doesn’t display that with unbreakable defense, but with clutch serving and shotmaking and a resilience after defeat, which he has showed for a long time, but particularly since 08.

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    Kyle Reply:

    I don’t know if Novak is a better competitor than Fed. It’s unfair to compare the two now because Djokovic is at the peak of his game. Roger has always been an amazing competitor even now when he so often refuses to back down in tough matches to Nole. That he’s still competing this well after so many years of high level tennis shows that he isn’t weak of mind. It’s even more obvious when you look at Sampras who completely lost his drive after the USO in 2000 and entered his final Slam as the 18th seed I believe. I don’t ever see Fed falling off that far even if he plays another two years and stays healthy. His fitness is too good and he’s found a way under Edberg to maximize the effect of the more old-school net-rushing game he possesses now. But yeah, to compare Fed and his mentality now to Djokovic is kind of unfair to him because they are at very opposite points of their careers. It would be more fair to compare 04-09 Fed and 11-15 Nole.

    Plus, Nole has lost quite a few matches in Slams the last few years that he probably should have won …. times where he displayed a lack of focus or drive in the big moments. I guess that’s what makes him so interesting though – that he can be so good like he was at Wimbledon and the Australian Open this year and then he can have matches like vs Nishikori or Stan last year (USO and AO) where he doesn’t play his best tennis when he needs to. But that is sport and when you put yourself in a winning position so often there will be times where you fall short. We’ve certainly seen that with all three of Rafa, Novak, and Roger the past 8 years or so.

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    Nakul Reply:

    Well there are a lot more factors other than just the competitive abilities. I know people use Federer’s age factor in both positive and negative ways, but for h2h that plays a major role. Even though Fed probably will end up having a negative h2h against Djoker, it won’t be as loopsided as Fedal and obviously a more entertaining and evenly matched one. Logically speaking, Fed had no chance of beating Djokovic anymore after that 2013 season but he had some key wins against Djokovic in 2014 and 2015, although each of them on hard courts. But in Nadal’s case, Djokovic has a really good chance of overtaking the h2h against him, but ofcourse dull easily avoids playing Djoker most of the times

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    Kyle Reply:

    The H2H doesn’t really matter between Fed and Nole to me, and I’m sure a lot of people. Novak has clearly been the better player since 2011 (that’s 5 years now, and will be 6-7 – whenever Fed retires). From 2008-2010 they were pretty even though Fed had the better results. Even in 07 Djoker was a true rival for Roger, taking him to 3 in Dubai, beating him in Montreal and pushing him hard in the USO final.

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  12. I know there is tremendous passion for this great sport and Roger Federer has been a great champion, the GOAT in many people’s estimation. But having recently joined some of the discussion here at UTB, I am a little surprised by the Fedfan hysteria that still exists.

    I am a huge Federer fan; who can’t be if you have followed this great sport over the years. Tough not to have fallen head-over-heels for this guy and his game (and I know he has been marketed perfectly, so the hysteria transcends tennis – ala Michael Jordan).

    Having said all of that, it’s been a while since Roger was at the top of the game. Granted, I know he’s #2 in the world – he absolutely deserves this ranking because he still plays at a very high level and consistently makes deep runs in these big tournaments. However, it’s been a long time since we were being so lustfully serenaded by the Maestro. You all know the history. 2003ish to 2008ish were absolutely, mind-bogglingly dominant. He was almost unbeatable but for the clay/Nadal enigma. But that’s still about seven years ago. He has sprinkled-in a few more majors (which I know resurrect the memories and that 2004-2007 greatness) but we should never have been so duped or depressed by what happened yesterday in the men’s final.

    Maybe this is just me missing the sarcasm of Fedfan sentimentality; I lost much of that after maybe my third or fourth 2:00am wake-up to watch a Nadal/Federer match back in the day here in the States. That was years ago it seems.

    Don’t miss-out on Djokovic, et al. Roger’s greatness is permanent and historical, but it’s just not even close, really at this point. Nor has it been for a while.

    Indeed, he will make runs and remain very relevant in the game ala Agassi who was ranked in the top 10 into his 36th year or so. But Djokovic is supreme right now. Djokovic even said at one point Roger was the guy the younger players looked up to – Roger has done more for tennis than we can possibly imagine. And even making the final was incredible for Rog.

    But the gap is pretty wide, has been, and will undoubtedly get bigger and bigger when it comes to winning major championship matches.

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    Kyle Reply:

    No doubt there is a gap between Djokovic and Federer. I just think it’s crazy that Fed is still Novak’s hardest opponent. It says a bit about the men’s game that the guys in their mid 20s like Nishikori, Raonic, and Dimitrov can’t really get close to the level of RF, ND, AM, and SW. That’s a whole other topic though.

    I had some hope that Roger would win based on his semifinal play but also knew that Djokovic is a much tougher player than Murray. And he forced Novak to raise his level and that is all that can be asked of him as a fan. I don’t see it as a disappointment that he loses to Novak because he should be – just like Agassi should have been losing to Roger from 03-05. But like Agassi could push Fed hard at his best level, Fed can do the same to Novak, and that says a lot about not only his game but his willingness to work hard to compete even with a decided physical disadvantage. It surely would have been fun to see 2015 Djokovic vs 2005 Federer. The baseline rallies would have been out of this world! If only we had a time machine…..

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    Ru-an Reply:

    It’s nostalgia, greed, fanaticism, etc Matt. Fedfans have been spoiled to the point where they can’t appreciate amazing things anymore. They want even more than that. So I see Federer losing the final yet again as a good thing to teach those fans to stop being such celebrity worshipers and appreciate the incredible tennis that is on display. If they want to worship celebrities they are in the wrong business. They are also glory hunters because having the most slams is not enough. He must also have the most Wimbledons.

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    Matt Reply:

    I agree. I have so many thoughts (conflicting) on Federer. Highs and lows, but the lows are manifested by the highs, then by some of the delusion and denial, a product of the highs. I have seen him play a lot of tennis. Mixed feelings.

    In discussions with friends, the GOAT sometimes comes down to who do you take in a match, take the player’s best form. Often, I say the Sampras of that ’94 or ’95 era. Then again I’ve seen Fed play in person a few times and he’s kind of blown my mind.

    I have to read your latest post!

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  13. Hey Ru-an. Are you not a Federer fan any longer or just more pro-Djokovic than before (I know you’ve been a fan of his for years though)? Now, having asked that, I should say that if Fed retired today Novak and Stan would be the guys I would be pulling for regularly and even now I admire Novak a lot and just have to applaud at his ridiculous machine-like tennis these days. Though I have always loved watching Fed more than anyone (and ever will), all my favourite guys to watch (past and present) are the aggressive types – Pete, Agassi, Safin, Nalbandian, Edberg, Rafter, Davydenko, Nole, Delpo, Blake, Gonzalez, Haas, even early Roddick. What Novak has been doing is remarkable and if Fed is losing Slam finals I’m glad it’s to him -especially when he’s still one of the two guys that can push him hard.

    Anyways, it was a well deserved win by Djokovic. His return game is just so ridiculous and it was definitely the difference of the match as Roger needed to force better serves in and thus his percentage dropped a bit. And I don’t care if it was Roger or any other player, that level of returning would have unnerved anyone’s serve game.

    US Open should be interesting though. There are more guys that can beat Nole and Fed on hard but it wouldn’t surprise me at all to see another final between them there. Right now Novak and Stan are the only guys that can beat Fed on one of his good days (Nadal too but he has to prove he’s a top player once more) and Stan may be the only guy that can beat Novak in best of 5 as he’s the only guy that can overpower him from the baseline.

    I know what Cash said and I wholeheartedly disagree. Federer is not playing the best tennis of his career right now. His serve and his net game are at the best they have ever been (though his serve was crazy in 07), but his forehand is certainly not what it used to be and neither is his movement. He is still playing at such a ridiculous level for his age and with the 1200+ matches in his legs, you could probably say with great accuracy that he is the greatest 34 year-old that has ever played. But that’s a whole lot different to say that he’s better than he was ten years ago.

    Just thought I’d stop by and get my two cents in. Nice to see that you still have a great place here. Hope all is going well in your life. Are you still playing much?

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