Lets Give Nadal Some Credit

Hi guys. It’s been a while since my last post which became my most popular post to date. My link got posted on Mens Tennis Forums, Tennis Warehouse Forum, Facebook, Twitter, and even Vamos Brigade. My traffic has been through the roof and the discussion is still going on. I haven’t made a post since because I was getting ready to come back to South Africa and I have lost a lot of hope for tennis of late. But I am not ready to give up on it just yet. Ironically my last post actually inspired me. For better or for worse, the publicity my last post received was enjoyable. I received some of the worst insults you can imagine as well as some of the best compliments. To the ones who complimented me I appreciate it and to the ones who insulted me I appreciate the hate as well. I just enjoy writing about tennis and whatever publicity I receive is enjoyable.

Of course with my link getting posted all over the place people came here who have never been here before and they just assumed I was some bitter and biased Nadal hater. My regular readers would know however that I have had plenty of good things to say about Nadal of late, and that I have criticized Roger many a time in the past. In fact someone recently commented that they are leaving because this blog has become a blog full of Nadal fanboys and that I should change the name of my blog to Ruans Nadal Blog! I have also frequently criticized Roger for his lack of mental fortitude against Nadal. In turn this has been interpreted by my readers as implying that Roger is mentally weak. Being misunderstood just comes with writing I guess. I don’t think Nadal is the devil nor do I think Roger is a mental weakling.

Both are equally ridiculous. If anyone is the devil it is the people who make it possible for there to be doping in sport and whose greed and corruption is ruining the sport. As for Roger you don’t win 17 slams being mentally weak. Roger is mentally strong but mental strength is not the strongest part of his game, and Nadal has managed to exploit that part of his game after which other players followed suit. And of course Roger’s decline hasn’t helped. Currently Roger appears extremely fragile mentally, but that is a post by its own for another time. In this post I want to look at some of the positives about Nadal, if only to remain balanced as a writer and to steer clear of being the fanatic type, which of course I can’t stand. That doesn’t mean I am changing my view on the current state of tennis. I still don’t like the direction it is going in.

And to a certain extent I needed to vent in my last post. I am not particularly against the way tennis is being played at the moment. I quite enjoyed the US Open final, until Djokovic failed to put Nadal away in the 3rd set that is. There were some really good rallies. It was certainly more exciting than some of the tennis played at Wimbledon in the nineties. What I did not like was Nadal’s constant defense and loopy topspin shots which eventually forced Djokovic into an error. Nadal fans see this as heroic, but I see it almost as cowardly. Nadal has always played this type of negative game, even though he has become more aggressive of late. I must say I have been impressed with how early he has been able to take the ball. In the past I didn’t even know he was capable of it. Nadal is no doubt a very talented player.

I always said he is one-dimensional compared to Roger, and that still holds true. Nadal will never possess the serve, volleys, or feel of Roger. But he makes up for it in the mental department. And that in itself is a talent. As I have said before, I now believe Nadal has the capability of equaling or even surpassing Roger’s slam count. What Nadal lacks in talent he makes up for in the mental department, and what Roger lacks for in the mental department he makes up for in talent. Roger was once asked about who is the best between him and Nadal and he replied that he believes we will never know. I always thought Roger was better, but since Nadal won the US Open this year and the way he has played all year I don’t think so anymore. It is always nice to support the better player and I always liked the idea that Roger was still better in the big picture than his nemesis.

Of course Nadal is still only on 13 slams and he still has some way to go to catch up with Roger. His resume is still quite unbalanced in favor of clay. If he wants to become as great as Roger he must win more slams on grass and hard. He also has to spend a lot more time at number one and win at least one or two Masters Cups. Nadal also needs to show that he can dominate for an extended period of time and have the kind of consistency Roger had. Roger’s consistency across all surfaces and dominance in his prime is what made him so great. I mean 300+ weeks at #1, utter dominance from 2004-2007 where he won 3 slams per year on 3 different occasions, 4 slam titles at 3 different slams, 1 slam title and 4 more slam finals on his worst surface, 23 consecutive slam semis, 18/19 slam finals, 36 consecutive slam quarters, 6 Masters Cup titles, the list goes on…

These numbers show incredible consistency and dominance and will be unbelievably hard to top. In fact Nadal will never top it, but he could top the all important slam titles and due to the fact that he exposed the slight mental glitch in Roger’s armor, he could have a claim to be at least equally as great. Like I said recently, there is an inevitability about it. Nadal’s biggest strength probably is his uncompromising will. When he wants something he takes it and nothing can stop him. In that sense he is a good role model. You can be sure he wants to surpass Roger and therefor I don’t see anything stopping him. He gets whatever he wants. He is a cyborg like that. Since Nadal will most likely at least equal Roger in slam count, it is a good time to also look at why exactly we are Fedfans. As I have already admitted I always liked the idea that Roger would go down as a better player than Nadal.

And I never had any doubt that he would. But now that is not the case anymore, and I have to question my own reasons for being a Fedfan. And fortunately I am not so superficial a human being as to only care about winning or being the best. Believe it or not, I am a Fedfan for much deeper reasons than that. I identify with Roger in many ways, such as honesty, objectivity, integrity, sensitivity, humility, and an artistic side. To people who don’t understand or know me I would often appear as arrogant or insensitive, but they are mistaken honesty for those qualities. I am just brutally honest and I can’t help it, which is why me or the readers of this blog are not your average Fedfan. We are not the fanatic kind who worship someone we don’t know personally. I often criticize Roger to the point that my readers get very angry at me.

Still GOAT…

So for me being a Fedfan is an expression of who I am and what I stand for. Of course I don’t claim to be 100% true to all these ideals that I mention. In fact I come up short on them more than I’d like to admit. But ultimately they are what I stand for and I view myself as a good person despite all my shortcomings. As far as Nadal goes I could never identify with him and my allegiance won’t shift even if he wins 100 slams. For me Roger has always been honest and open and I always knew what he was about. With Nadal it has been the opposite. I could never quite sum the guy up and I don’t trust him. There are too many incongruities in his personality. Just today I read a comment in response to someone saying that Nadal was humble and nice to everyone. The response was that former pro Bjorkman didn’t agree with that at all.

Bjorkman said that Nadal is nice to Federer and in front of the media, but behind the scenes with the other players he is basically a prick. Roger on the other hand treats everyone the same. There is no inconsistencies or deceit in him. His fellow players have the greatest respect for him which is why he receives the sportsmanship award just about every year and why he has been on the players council for so long. The players respect him and believe he has their best interest at heart. Nadal appears much more self-centered. It seems he is always thinking of number one first, despite the fact that the tour is pretty much tailor made for him. For instance he plays in an era where court speeds have been slowed down significantly, benefiting his defensive game style. The clay court season is also much longer than the grass court season, including 3 Masters Series events compared to none on grass.

Yet he is still has the nerve to complain about court surfaces and asks for a two year ranking system so he can remain at the top of the rankings despite his ridiculously long breaks from the sport. Clearly he couldn’t care less about the struggling up and coming young players who would find it much harder to break through into the top of the game with a two year ranking system. These are just a couple of examples why Nadal appears egotistical and false. There are many more. He has for instance disrespected past greats by calling tennis by the likes of Sampras and Ivanisevic at Wimbledon in the 90’s ‘not really tennis’. To the world and the media he is projecting this image of someone who is humble and innocent, but his actions betray something entirely different. This is why I can’t trust Nadal and why I will never be a fan.

More than anything I hate falseness, and Nadal reeks of it. Off court he appears to be a nice guy but on court he doesn’t have a problem to pull out any dirty trick in the book to unnerve his opponents, including taking a toilet break when the opponent is about to serve for the match, fake injury time outs at important junctures in the match, time wasting, getting coaching from his uncle, grunting harder the more important the point gets, shoulder charging opponents at the change over to intimidate, etc. This was supposed to be a post about giving credit to Nadal, but I went with the flow and it seems it has turned out to be more a post about revisiting our reasons for being Fedfans. There are some good things to be learned from Nadal however, despite the negative things I mentioned above. His relentless will and ability to overcome obstacles is certainly admirable.

He is extremely clutch as well, even though I think it takes more balls to be an attacking player than a defensive player. This is in fact another very important reason why I am a Federer fan and not a Nadal fan. I like the player who has the balls to take initiative and go for their shots, instead of the player who negatively retrieves their opponents into submission. I’m sorry I just can’t respect that part of Nadal’s game. It is ugly to watch and since he calls the playing style of past greats ‘not really tennis’, I will go ahead and call that style of play ‘not really tennis’ either. It is every bit as boring as the big serves of the 90’s, and Nadal is therefor a hypocrite. With Nadal winning the US Open for a 2nd time we have now reached the opposite end of the spectrum which was the boring power game of the 90’s, and it is not a pretty sight.

Sampras was the leader of the power game of the 90’s and now Nadal is the leader of the base line grinders in the 2010’s. I consider Roger to be somewhere in between. This is why I still consider him to be the greatest of the modern era. Sampras and Nadal to me are very similar in many ways, even though their game styles could not have been more different. I have always considered them to be on par with each other, while Roger has something extra. Why do I say this? Sampras and Nadal are to a certain extent opportunists who took advantage of their respective eras which suited their game style. Roger on the other hand is so complete and adaptable that he is not dependent on eras or conditions. He would be equally great in any era. Sampras has some shortcomings as a defensive player, while Nadal has some shortcomings as an attacking player.

Roger to me is the ultimate because he is as good in the fore court as he is from the base line. He is better than Sampras as a defensive player and better than Nadal as an attacking player. He has it all, and his resume has it all as well. For this reason he will always be the modern era GOAT to me. I can’t talk for the eras before that because there is too big a difference. It doesn’t really matter to me that Nadal dominated the head-to-head or if he passes Roger in slam count. Roger will remain greater to me. So in fact I still think Roger is greater. We will see what the future holds, but one thing is for sure and that is that my allegiance will never switch to Nadal and I am very well established and steadfast in my reasons for being a Fedfan. And when I say that, what I have in mind has nothing to do with who is the better tennis player…

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53 Comments

  1. I do not like Nadal as a person and certainly not as a player. I am not a fan of grinders. That takes out many players both men and women. I am finding it hard to find any of the other players to get real interested in following. I do not think it would be easy for the other male players from Spain to compete with Nadal. Roger still has the best sponsors and no other male player has that. I wish nadal would be caught doping or have to give up playing. Djokovic and Nadal did not have the following as Azarenka and Serena.

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  2. Thanks for your honesty. I feel many of the same things but have been leery about being so blunt about it; thus I haven’t done a blog post in a couple weeks. There simply is no joy in seeing Nadal win and win and win when it feels like it hasn’t come honestly. Of course we have no proof. Hoping that his knees catch up with him again before he is able to catch or surpass Roger, but even if he does there are just so many factors that will always make Roger so much better – his incredible consistency on all surfaces, his amazing all court game, winning the World Tour Finals 6 times against the top 8 players, #1 for over 300 weeks, etc., etc.. Like you, I can never be a Nadal fan – I have tried and I just can’t get there.

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  3. Ruan, I’m proud of you, cause you gave him, “some” credit. LOL, Gary

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Haha cheers Gary.

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    Chris Reply:

    Ru-an tried really hard to say something nice about Nadal! Maybe we should help him a bit in this direction. Nadal is a Gladiator, not dancing, but fighting out there. I could not even run like that when my fingers hurt, he can do it when his knees hurt. That’s stuff for the movies!

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Well maybe it didn’t get through so well in my post but I think I was pretty lavish in my praise of Nadal in the second part of my reply to Jiten…

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  4. Ru-an, back to the doping speculation. Contrary to some extreme Dopal fan (in the guise of a Fed fan) who thinks that you should go to jail for doubting that Nadal may be doping, it is making rounds amongst ATP players as well. Here is an excerpt from a recent interview by Dmitry Tursunov in Tennis Now.

    “TN: Does it surprise you that Rafa Nadal has been able to have one of the best seasons of his career after being off the court for seven months?

    Tursunov: It’s a tough topic because a lot of people insinuate that he’s not just taking Flintstones to play so well. We all have to do something a little extra because we have to maintain the level we need to compete. I’m not talking about something illegal or something hard-core. I don’t know, maybe he does have butt implants. That seems to be the topic of the locker room (laughs).

    I think he’s definitely exceptional in a lot of ways. Mentally, he’s able to focus in a way that not a lot of people are able to. I think he loves just the grind of it. He loves the challenge of it. I’m not the person who likes to go out and compete for the hell of it. I’d rather go lay on a couch somewhere. Rafa is able to focus, not to win the tournament and say, like, “Holy crap, I did such a good job! Let’s go party somewhere in Mallorca and Ibiza!” He wins the French Open and the next day he’s practicing for two hours in Queens. I’m sure he takes certain steps to give himself the best chance to get there, whether it’s taking Flintstones or eating correctly. It’s a little bit unfair from our side to say, “For sure, this guy is juicing,” because in our minds, we’d rather believe he’s doing a quick fix instead of believing he works for seven hours like a horse to get there.”

    The complete interview is here:

    http://www.tennisnow.com/News/Totally-Tursunov-Dmitry-Talks-Life-Lessons,-Sugarp.aspx

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Interesting quotes Jiten and interesting choice of words by Tursunov. Of course he realizes it’s a sensitive subject and chooses his words carefully. The consequences of him flat out accusing Nadal could be severe. He is not a star player and I recently read an article from him about how tight the finances is for even someone like him. Tennis is just like society where the top 1% enjoys all the spoils while the other 99% slaves away for a living. This is why it is so hard to bust a top player who dopes. They possess almost absolute power and intimidate people who threatens to expose them, just like I was threatened in my last post for speculating about Nadal doping. I read somewhere that Armstrong for instance was a bully and tried to intimidate those that threatened to expose him. I feel like it was almost luck that he got exposed, because these people are like the mafia.
    Anyway Tursunov’s comments compliment my post nicely when he says how determined and focused Nadal is. He possesses an iron will that Roger never had. He simply does not take no for an answer and that is a great characteristic. I love how driven and uncompromising he is. It is something I am trying to employ in my own life and which I admire. So whether Nadal is doping or not he is still a very talented tennis player and possesses some amazing qualities. There is no doubt about it.

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    Jiten Reply:

    “Tennis is just like society where the top 1% enjoys all the spoils while the other 99% are basically slaves. This is why it is so had to bust a top player who dopes. They possess almost absolute power and intimidate people who threatens to expose them.” I think your comment exemplifies the current situation with Cilic. There has been huge speculation that that Rafa’s 8 month hiatus may have been due to a silent ban imposed on him by the ATP. The difference here is that Cilic has to return his atp points as well as the prize money which Nadal doesn’t have to. After a provisional suspension, Cilic’s ban has been officially announced. No such thing for Rafa. So while Rafa can get away using the so called ‘silent ban’ provision (theory), lesser known players like Cilic cannot. The irony of the truth is: Cilic’s ‘silent provisional suspension’ is different from Rafa’s supposed silent ban. Why not? ATP has been constantly intimidated by Uncle Toni & nephews (not Uncle Toni & Sons, LOL!).

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    FFF Reply:

    Oh – you had to come here and crap over all Ruan has written. Did you even read the blog post headline. Its about giving credit to the nemesis.

    I fail to see how the link you have provided has any relevance here.

    First off – ” doubting that Nadal may be doping, it is making rounds amongst ATP players as well.” is simply a wrong assertion if you read that ATP players comments. He is praising Nadal for his stamina & focus, NOT doubting that Nadal may be doping”

    Secondly – Tupo makes clear how other ATP players like him (you have so much fake sympathy for) says that he likes lazing around and partying. Contrasting with Nadal.

    Lastly – I dont want Ruan to go to Jail , I just advised him to stay clear of alleging something which is unproven based on references & rumors started by people with ulterior motives.

    I may have become agitated when I first read the last post and might have threatened to report but after reading the posts , its clear that he never directly accuses Nadal. I am still not happy that some comments are outright accusations but there is NOT much he can do about if the comments are free on the site.

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    Chris Reply:

    You don’t seem to be much in favor of the freedom of speech. That is something to worry about.

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    Chris Reply:

    Some food for thought for FFF: http://www.damnlol.com/the-sad-truth-37188.html

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  5. You have gone too far in the opposite direction now.
    As a Federer Fan it doesnt make good reading LOL

    Jokes aside – I m glad that you wrote this piece (even with the backhanded praises & still a roundabout reference to doping) but this does show that you try to understand others styles even if not appreciate it. Thats more important.

    For me the key is to see both styles almost as 2 different sports. Style Tennis & Power Tennis. Each is GOAT in their own. Its just coincidence that nowadays Power Tennis is ruling the roost. Nadal was simply the first of the generation for this new sport. Others will come – you can be sure of that.

    Federer was probably the last of the generation but we will see many more Nadals.

    For good or bad, there was some overlap and both had the measure of each other (2007-8) – so I think I am fortunate to have witnessed the transitional period where two absolute GOATs fought to impose their own styles.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Well yeah I am not biased and bitter like many people claim. I can appreciate what Nadal brings to the table, because it is something that Roger could not bring to the table. Roger does not possess the same fighting abilities and heart that Nadal does. He is not as clutch either. And these things have nothing to do with whether Nadal is doping or not. Where did I refer to doping in a roundabout way?

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    FFF Reply:

    No biggie , but I was referring to the section in your blog post specifically about doping when the subject was giving Nadal credit.

    I know you genuinely wanted to credit Nadal. And I also know that its just dam hard when you dont like the bloke. But I think you managed it pretty well.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Being a fan of a player has its downfalls. If I credit Nadal too much my readers get mad at me or assume my allegiance is changing. I don’t like that part about having a fan blog. People expect you to act in a certain way. I don’t necessarily dislike Nadal off court. He seems to be a pretty decent and real guy, while Roger can sound kind of awkward and plastic. It’s mostly the on court persona I have a problem with and the fact that he is inconsistent. It is also the competitor in me that wants to see him beaten every time he steps on court. In fact a Nadal loss is more enjoyable to me than a Federer win. I found it intensely pleasurable when Djokovic kept beating Nadal. There is just something about him that makes me want to see him crushed by his opponent.

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    Chris Reply:

    I met Roger Federer twice in Switzerland, off court, and he seemed incredibly relaxed, at ease with his status and at the same time really down to earth. Not looking down on anybody, just being really nice to people. I really got impressed by that, seeing how other people become cocky for much less. I don’t know how Nadal behaves outside the tennis world, and I don’t need to know either. I suggest you move ahead with the idea of this being a Ruan Tennis Blog, and you comment on big matches, how you see the young players break through, and how the top players develop.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Very interesting comment Chris. I’m surprised you haven’t mentioned meeting Roger before. When I said that Roger looks plastic sometimes I didn’t necessarily mean he is fake or anything. It’s more a certain awkwardness/shyness. Meeting Roger must have been awesome and I’m sure he is exactly like you said. That is what just about everyone says about him anyway. A lot of people claim he is arrogant and smug too but that is just part of being a tennis player and it comes with an unwavering belief in yourself which is crucial if you want to get anywhere in tennis(one of the reasons I did not get very far). What seems evident abut Roger and what I appreciate about him is this kind of human element and compassion that he possesses. This is probably why he is such an icon too. I don’t think Nadal has that, and who cares about the people who says Roger is arrogant and smug anyway. They are just haters who doesn’t know him personally. Again appearances can be deceiving. Roger appears arrogant or awkward sometimes, but I think he is actually very down to earth and real. Nadal on the other hand appears more humble and real in front of the camera, but he may just be the opposite.
    As for the blog suggestion that is the plan, and I’m glad you agree with it. I look forward to break the shackles of having a fan blog and just being free to write whatever I want without people imposing their expectations. And actually ‘Ruans Tennis Blog’ was exactly the name I had in mind. Not sure if I mentioned that before or whether it is just a coincidence that you came up with the same name I thought of. Anyway I like the ring of Ruans Tennis Blog. No reference to a particular player and no expectations, while at the same time I can still have favorites. Having said that, once Roger is gone being a fan of a player will never be the same again. So it may be an appropriate time to just move on and cover tennis in general anyway. I’m not sure yet when I want to make that change though. Maybe at the end of the year when it’s this blog’s 5 year anniversary? Or maybe I’ll just wait until Roger retires. Whatever the case may be I hope to always keep you as a reader and my other readers as well. I’d really miss you guys if you left.

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  6. Nice post Ru-an. I liked especially the last portions.
    Just a question. You say Sampras and Rafa are in some ways similar. I always thought Agassi and Rafa were in some ways similar. Why is Agassi in that way different from Rafa?
    Ps: Where is Vily?? And still no Veronica……

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    Ru-an Reply:

    I didn’t say Agassi and Nadal is different, even though they are. I dunno where Vily is. Maybe he took my advice and took a break from tennis. Veronica is on a trip in Europe and doesn’t comment while she’s traveling.

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  7. “Both are equally ridiculous. If anyone is the devil it is the people who make it possible for there to be doping in sport and whose greed and corruption is ruining the sport.”

    So this is a post which respects Nadal, and yet you accuse hime cheating with no evidence to backup your claims. Apart from the fact he has 13 slams, and a winning record against Federer, therefore he must be doping.

    Is it OK if I accuse Federer of doping, I have no evidence and to be frank I don’t think it is true, but it is possible to build a case based on circumstantial evidence like you have against Nadal. All those tournement wins, that demanding schedule, and yet Federer remains remarkably injury free. Must be doping.

    Outrageous thing to say, of course, but it is no different to you trying destroy Nadal’s reputation and achievement without the slightest shred of proof.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Whatever you say man. I really couldn’t care less if you want to build a doping case against Fed. I don’t even know why you brought doping up. I didn’t accuse Nadal of doping anywhere. Why am I letting you post your garbage on my blog again?

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    bartelbe Reply:

    Yes you did, in the quote I posted from your blog. Own your s**t, as the American’s say.

    My point was not to say Federer dopes, I don’t think he does. Simply to point out there is no more evidence against Nadal than Federer.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    How did I accuse Nadal in the quote you posted? I was accusing the people who make it possible for players to dope. If anything I was taking blame off Nadal. Keep it up, you’re close to getting banned.

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    bartelbe Reply:

    Banned what for? For disagreeing with you.

    Taking the blame off Nadal, by blaming those that in your opinion allow doping, implies that Nadal is doping.

    Now if you post a reply saying you have no more evidence that Nadal is doping than any other player, including Federer, I will end this debate.

    If you are incapable of civilised debate, ban me.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    I’m not taking the blame off anyone. If Nadal is doping then he is doping and he should give all his titles and prize money back. But if doping control is done half-hearted, which seems to be the case, and dopers are protected, then those people should be punished as well.

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    bartelbe Reply:

    OK I will ask you two straight questions:
    1) Do you believe Nadal is doping?
    2) If your answer is yes to 1, what is your evidence?

    I don’t think it is unreasonable to ask you to make your accusations directly, or withdraw them.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    1) Yes.
    2) I don’t have to have evidence to believe something. It is called a belief for a reason.

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    Katyani Reply:

    Bartelbe, just to support Ru-an and the others a litte bit.
    Yes, I too believe Rafa is doping.
    No, I have no evidence.
    There would be evidence if the rules for testing were strickter.
    And no, I and I think all of us Roger fans do not believe for a second that Rafa is doping because he defeats Roger.
    Everyone who defeats Roger is not automatically a doper.
    Katyani

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    Tori.S Reply:

    I don’t have to have evidence to believe something. It is called a belief for a reason.

    ——-
    http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/david-walsh-it-was-obvious-me-lance-armstrong-was-doping

    He [David Walsh] recalls his first words to Armstrong when he arrived at the hotel: “I don’t believe you’re clean, but this is why I’m here, because I have questions.

    “Everybody would say, ‘what evidence have you got?’. I would say, ‘well I don’t have enough evidence to ever prove to anyone that he’s guilty…I just feel that I have huge responsibility, a huge need, to go and ask a lot of questions’.”

    “This was one of the great comebacks in the history of sport and everybody wanted to believe it so badly, regardless of what doubts they would have had.”

    “Because the Armstrong story was deemed to be so good, so remarkable, an inspiration to countless millions, who wants to rain on that parade? Who wants to be the one to say, ‘hold on, it may not be what it seems’. Journalists then begin acting like fans with typewriters.

    ————-

    Also, a recent interview from Koellerer:

    On Rafael Nadal and doping:

    “Look at him! Nobody believes that he does not take anything!” exclaimed Koellerer. He stays out for seven months, back in February, won ten out of thirteen tournaments. This is impossible, impossible That says it all, I guess.
    This combines with the fact that there are many rumors on the tennis scene, which breaks by injuries are actually disguised suspensions for doping. Imagine if test (anti-doping) is positive, what that would cause for tennis. ”

    Another Translation:
    “He is out seven months, coming back in February and WINS then ten tournaments! That is impossible! Impossible! That says it all, anyway I find. It fits to that there are already many rumors on the tennis scene, that his injury
    breaks in truth should be disguised doping locks”

    http://tenisnews.band.uol.com.br/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=57239
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    Nadal’s comeback defies logic and there are rumors on the Tennis scene that he was serving a silent suspension (This isn’t the first time such rumors have surfaced, 2009?; very interesting). At least now we know for certain they exist; thanks to the Croatian media leaking the news of Cilic’s positive test.

    *Hey Ru-an, double comment! You can delete the first one*

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    rich Reply:

    Tori, good post. The unbelievable in sports is generally that – unbelievable.

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    rich Reply:

    @bartelbe

    “.. you (are) trying destroy Nadal’s reputation and achievement without the slightest shred of proof.”

    So, bartelbe, why should you care what anyone says here? If Nadal isn’t doping, then what difference do accusations on a tennis blog make? Nadal obviously doesn’t care, as he doesn’t do anything about the accusations – and it obviously doesn’t stop him from doping.

    I think you are afraid that the idea that Nadal is doping will catch on, and more and more people will believe it. But they will only believe that if they have reason to suspect he is a doper. If you don’t think there are any grounds for suspicion then there isn’t anything to worry about. On the other hand, if there are grounds … yeah, that’s what really worries you.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    This pretty much sums it up Rich. The only reason these people are outraged are that they are afraid these rumors are true. If they were so sure Nadal was not doping there would be no reason to get as wound up as they do. They know it’s a possibility. If it was not they would pay the accusations no attention.

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    Chris Reply:

    Proof of this, I have mentioned several times on this blog that Federer might be a doper. On a Fedfan blog! Where was the outrage? Who attacked me? Was I asked to shut up? No, basically nobody cared, some just saying that yes, the possibility exist, but it seems unlikely…

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Right Chris. I don’t like the idea that Roger could be doping but I don’t think he is so it doesn’t bother me much.

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    Tori.S Reply:

    “If you don’t think there are any grounds for suspicion then there isn’t anything to worry about. On the other hand, if there are grounds … yeah, that’s what really worries you.”

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    Well said Rich. You know it’s strange, when someone brings up the possibility that there is doping in Tennis, a CERTAIN fan group automatically attacks and starts defending their player even though you don’t even mention any names. Defense mechanism.

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    bartelbe Reply:

    I care because it is a low thing to do. Attacking a man’s reputation, when his only crime is to beat federer at tennis.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    And of course you have proof of this yourself? Not that beating Federer is a crime or anything..

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    rich Reply:

    @bartelbe

    So “attacking a man’s reputation” is a low thing to do? Well, there are many who consider doping to be even lower. Are you going to take on every person on the internet and in the tennis world who expresses the view that Nadal is likely doping? Good luck to you.

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    bartelbe Reply:

    I’m suspiscious of the motives of those posting here. If the testing regime in tennis is so slack, there is an equal chance all the top players are doping. Anyone who has won multiple slams or back to back titles is under suspiscion.

    That includes Nadal, but equally that list includes Federer. So the concentration on Nadal seems more to do with his head to head against Federer, than the evidence of doping.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    ‘So the concentration on Nadal seems TO ME more to do with his head to head against Federer, than the evidence of doping.’

    I corrected the above for you. The concentration on Nadal may as well have to do with him dominating the tour after a 7 month break and winning the USO.

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  8. Hello Ru-an, greetings to you!
    Your blog has been extremely busy, indeed, lots and lots of comments on your previous post plus this one, too. Before I go on, I love the picture of Roger on this blog, he looks ever so happy and handsome. A good ad for Rolex, too! It is a Class photo. Thank you for sharing it with us.
    Agree with you a lot on this blog, Ru-an. As far as Nadal goes, I have the same problem as you, I just don’t trust him. He is not my cup of tea to watch his tennis. So be it. No hard feelings there for Nadal.
    I am very anxious and excited for Roger to play tennis, I think all of Fedfans miss him.
    Just a few other tidbits I want to mention, Ru-an, glad to know Veronica is okay. How nice that Chris has met Roger a couple of times expressing his enjoyable talk with him. Roger rules from the heart!
    Well, better sign off, do not want to waste any more of your time.
    Will look forward to your next blog, Ru-an.
    Kindly,
    Dolores

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Not wasting my time Dolores. Always good to hear from a long time loyal supporter of my blog. And a unique one at that. I’m glad you said no hard feeling for Nadal. I think that is an attitude we should all have. It’s ok not to like but important not to judge I feel. Good hearing from you :-)

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  9. Ruan, I agree with your post. Let’s give Nadal some credit. Um … let me get back to you on that one.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Ha Rich I didn’t think you would be particularly into my latest post. No worries :-)

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  10. Hi, everyone! When I saw the title I was quite shocked. Then I read the whole piece and I sense the duality in Ru-an. On one hand he is trying to praise Nadal and on the other he is showing just why he is to be despised.

    I will not second guess myself. Nadal is a tennis monster and there’ll there is too it. He will never be the Greatest and I refuse to write Roger’s eulogy and console myself by trying to praise Nadal.

    I don’t care. Just as I wrote after Roger’s loss to Robredo I was more upset about Roger’s decline and aging than Nadal’s winning.

    I couldn’t care less about the Spaniard. To me he’ll never be remembered as a great tennis player – he’ll be remembered as a ferocious warrior who just refuses to lay down. But like everyone, he’ll be crushed eventually.

    For now, I’d rather talk and care to read about Roger and his comeback rather than the doom and gloom of tennis. Tennis will be resurrected sooner or later. And I am sure that when it’s all said and done Roger Federer will be the last man standing with the most Slams to his name.

    Because he is the MASTER. And Nadal will always be the apprentice.. :-) ))

    By the way Roger is already at Number 5 in the rankings…

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  11. I just had to mention this. Lets not forget to add to Roger’s record that he is the only man in history to have a title to his name on Blue Clay. :-)

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  12. Have not commented here in a long time. But anyway, just want to say that while Nadal is a great player, I believe Roger is not done winning yet. If he can win 1 or 2 more majors, he should be able to keep the most grand slam titles record in his hands. If he can beat Nadal en route to winning these slams, that would be even better. I think as long as he is healthy and dedicated, he can still do it. Keep up the faith, my fellow fed fans!

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    Ru-an Reply:

    Right now I can’t help but feel this is an extremely optimistic comment. From what I have seen this year I think he would be very lucky to win 1 more slam, let alone 2. Also there is no way I see him beating Nadal in a slam again. But then again, things change fast in tennis.

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    David C. Reply:

    Well, things can change in a hurry, and fortune can wax and wane. We can only wait and let history plays itself out. Of course, a lot of it also depends on Roger, his health, his motivation, and luck…etc.

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    Ru-an Reply:

    True. Roger’s confidence has been at an all time low this year. It seems with every match he played he reached a new low. The match against Robredo felt like yet another all time low. At least at Wimbledon vs Stakhovsky he played decent. But then he goes and lose before the QF again in straight sets this time. I mean he got owned basically. Least vs Stakohvsky he took a set and almost took it to a 5th set. But at least he said it was going to be a transitional year and the fact that Nadal won the USO may just be the motivation he needs to really get it together in 2014.

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    Katyani Reply:

    Hey Ru-an, you know what is so good about Roger? That he is stubborn, but that he is good at wake-up calls.
    He had 3 goals in 2012 (Wimby, back at world number one, Olympic medal). He worked his butt off to get those goals. For 2013 he had no specific goals. Having a transition year and going deep in tours are not specific goals.
    Now, when Rafa won his 13th GS, maybe this is what Roger needed to get a wake up call. Now he can make his goal for 2014 to win GS in order to stop Rafa from getting close.
    I am always so surprised when I read that Rafa can equal (with 4) or surpass Roger (with 5), but that “no one” is willing to think that in these 3 to 4 years, it could also be possible for Roger to get atleast 1 GS (maybe even 2).
    It will be NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE, I know, but it CAN happen. We did not see Wimby 2012 coming…. so he could win again, atleast 1 (maybe even 2). Not in one year, but in a few years, yes.
    Everything happens for a reason. Faith/Destiny. Maybe Rafa winning his 13th is going to get Roger hungrier/angrier again.
    Like we all say, he is a bit arrogant, he does not want Rafa to equal or surpass him…
    And afterall… If Roger can decline, so can Rafa…

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